driving me insane that in all these conversations about students turning in essays written by chatgpt, no one's making the very obvious argument that this is only happening because our education system places zero emphasis on qualitative understanding of a subject, instead favoring the infantile fantasy that knowledge you can measure numerically is the highest-quality and most important type of knowledge to the exclusion of all else
@sarahzedig fwiw this changed my writing life by basically pointing out that school writing is writing for teachers and not an audience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFwVf5a3pZM
and maybe some other people also need that
@NireBryce ooo thank you i'll give this a watch
@sarahzedig the last half of each is just examples, so they're reasonable 40m watches.
there's a second one that's more of the same but with some different angles, and a smaller class so he gets to go into more detail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtIzMaLkCaM
but both have a lot of stuff that, even as someone who was Good at non-school Writing, I didn't think of -- because I hadn't thought of writing education actually just being writing for educators.
@sarahzedig but we're taught through school to just... write terribly and then lose points when we write the way writing actually has to happen
@sarahzedig like, some actual in class discussion and handwritten responses clear up the whole thing. at that point at least they have to read the cliff notes (which they’ve been doing for decades already if they don’t care enough to do the reading)
@sarahzedig well. Blaming someone else is always easier than criticising your own methods.
make no bones about it, chatgpt wouldn't be "disrupting" english classes if english classes weren't run like math classes