@kate one of my buddies is a female, uh, a female guy, and he would come down to the park by the benches, and she would, uh, she'd go to the pool and throw bread to the ducks, and these ducks were very hungry. and the loaf he used was wholewheat, the whollest wheat you can get in the county, it's the kind i like to have for breakfast with some peanut butter. and the thing about breakf